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Post by Satanas on Aug 13, 2014 22:30:36 GMT -5
So, while it seems like we have a well-established PC build/troubleshooting thread, a cursory search for a PC gaming thread yielded nothing. The big news today of course was MGSV's PC release. With this confirmation, I believe it's really only a matter of time before Silent Hill also gets a confirmed PC release. And with the new Tomb Raider being confirmed as a timed exclusive, that also suggests that we'll see it on PC sometime next year (which is great, I loved the reboot). Tech-wise, next gen truly is here with the PG278Q/g-sync and Nvidia's 880 launching next month: www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/gigabyte-confirms-nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-launch-this-fall/I, for one, plan to pick up both an 880 and PG278Q. The TL;DR here is that we PC gamers will very soon be enjoying gaming in one of two flavors: 1. 4K, 60 fps, g-sync OR 2. 1440p, 120 fps, g-sync I'm personally opting for the latter, and will probably look into 4K sometime next year for movie/series-watching with an IPS monitor. Anyway - feel free to discuss anything related to PC hardware, news and games here, I suppose. |
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Post by hackandbash on Aug 14, 2014 6:28:04 GMT -5
Or just take Geforce Z, and your ready  |
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Post by Satanas on Aug 14, 2014 13:41:46 GMT -5
You're not wrong, really. The Titan Z is far beyond anything else right now, but when I said "next gen" is here I was mostly referring to the initial wave of g-sync monitors at beyond 1080p and beyond 60Hz. The 880 is appealing because it will likely outdo the 780 Ti (I hope, at least) and also not cost $3000 lol
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Post by bladesfist on Aug 14, 2014 15:09:31 GMT -5
I can't decide between the rog swift and the Asus PB278Q , Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM. PC gamer problems.
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Post by Satanas on Aug 14, 2014 16:35:26 GMT -5
It's an absolute no-brainer if you are considering a monitor for gaming. Only one of those choices gives you g-sync, 1440p, 144hz and ultra low input lag. The other options are better for color-sensitive tasks, however.
In my opinion, G-Sync is the technology that truly ushers in the essence of next-gen with PCs. Many of us are already gaming beyond 1080p and beyond 60fps, so this is really the next thing. No tearing, no stuttering, no input delay overhead.
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Post by MidnytRain on Aug 14, 2014 16:38:59 GMT -5
There's a user here who swears by IPS monitors. Maybe it was duplissi... I would kill for the Swift... Isn't like $800? Christ... You could buy two high-end cards for that much. This one's for a buddy with a lot of spare change. |
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Post by Satanas on Aug 14, 2014 16:53:54 GMT -5
Yes, it is $800, and well worth it.
The reason is simple. It offers things you simply cannot find in any other product. There are 4K TN g-sync panels coming out...but they are 60Hz over DisplayPort. I don't know about you, but at 27 inches, I will take 1440p/120fps over 4K/60fps, especially since the latter requires a lot more horsepower for the most part.
As far as the IPS debacle, I mean, you cannot get an IPS monitor that can do any of this. There is a relevant Tom's Hardware review of the PG278Q you can look up, and you'll see the monitor performs pretty well for a TN panel. The important thing here is that it maintains good visual fidelity while also having an excellent response time.
If you swear by IPSes for gaming, you'll have to wait quite some time and likely dish out well over 800. I'm not willing to wait because I do not care all that much about viewing angles, especially not when the ability to position this monitor is as good as it is.
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Post by MidnytRain on Aug 14, 2014 16:58:50 GMT -5
Yes, it is $800, and well worth it. The reason is simple. It offers things you simply cannot find in any other product. Hopefully they'll get some competition soon. For my sake. |
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Post by Satanas on Aug 14, 2014 17:03:40 GMT -5
I think next year, you will see market saturation (by mid-year perhaps) of g-sync monitors. At this time you'll definitely have more affordable options. I think for at least the next few months after the Swift's release, though, that you won't see many affordably priced 1440p/144Hz gsync monitors. Many of the monitors that will saturate the market will probably be 120Hz/1080p or even 60Hz/1080p. And of course, there will also be the 60Hz/4K screens.
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Post by MidnytRain on Aug 14, 2014 17:09:04 GMT -5
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Post by Satanas on Aug 14, 2014 17:37:29 GMT -5
Early access is definitely an annoying trend. In better news, I heard that the new Unreal Tournament is not only free-to-access in its pre-alpha state (by anyone), but that the game itself is supposedly going to be free-to-play in general upon release. I haven't really done too much looking into it, as I was highly disappointed by the cut-down UT3, but if this is anything reminiscent of a next-gen UT2k4, I'll be very excited. Edit: Actually, according to this, it's just free all around: www.polygon.com/2014/5/8/5695404/unreal-tournament-new-2014-free-unreal-engine-4-epic-games |
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Post by Mr Tretton on Aug 14, 2014 18:12:32 GMT -5
Looking forward to UT4, I want that style of shooter back, I'm tired of military shooters. Wish this was being done with Quake also. I know Quake Live is coming to Steam, but I want an 'updated' Quake.
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Post by Satanas on Aug 14, 2014 18:27:13 GMT -5
I think because the game is being developed with the community and because of how integral mods are, that the new UT could really be something great. And I agree, I want this kind of shooter back too.
The biggest problem with UT3 was that it valued looking pretty over substance, and many of UT2k4's great game modes were cut. I expect stuff like Invasion, Assault, Mutant, Bombing Run, etc. to all make a return, as well as hopefully some other great stuff. Unreal Championship, UT2K3 and UT2K4 were probably the best arena shooters of their kind around the time they were released.
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Post by bladesfist on Aug 15, 2014 0:10:05 GMT -5
Yes, it is $800, and well worth it. The reason is simple. It offers things you simply cannot find in any other product. There are 4K TN g-sync panels coming out...but they are 60Hz over DisplayPort. I don't know about you, but at 27 inches, I will take 1440p/120fps over 4K/60fps, especially since the latter requires a lot more horsepower for the most part. As far as the IPS debacle, I mean, you cannot get an IPS monitor that can do any of this. There is a relevant Tom's Hardware review of the PG278Q you can look up, and you'll see the monitor performs pretty well for a TN panel. The important thing here is that it maintains good visual fidelity while also having an excellent response time. If you swear by IPSes for gaming, you'll have to wait quite some time and likely dish out well over 800. I'm not willing to wait because I do not care all that much about viewing angles, especially not when the ability to position this monitor is as good as it is. The price is insane over here in the UK £720 or $1200 which is holding me back :/ |
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Post by MidnytRain on Aug 15, 2014 0:17:00 GMT -5
The price is insane over here in the UK £720 or $1200 which is holding me back :/ I think the 800 for a monitor by itself is crazy. I could build a whole 'nother computer that's even better with that kind of money. |
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Post by bladesfist on Aug 15, 2014 0:31:48 GMT -5
The price is insane over here in the UK £720 or $1200 which is holding me back :/ I think the 800 for a monitor by itself is crazy. I could build a whole 'nother computer that's even better with that kind of money. I would buy it in a heartbeat for $800, it is the component you spend all your time looking at. |
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Post by Satanas on Aug 15, 2014 2:24:47 GMT -5
I think the thing you guys need to consider is that right now, this is a luxury monitor. It is competitionless, so its pricing is definitely extreme. It's a lot like how the TITAN Z is really in its own class.
If you are looking for 'reasonable' prices you should just wait about a year. I want to be an early adopter, which is why I'm willing to fork over the $800 for this thing. If I think something is truly worth it, I'll allocate money for it. For something like this I'd spend $800, but if it were over a grand, I'd expect it to be 4K or IPS-color quality.
Edit: Actually yeah, I guess it sucks when you convert the price from pounds or Euros. To be honest, even Canada will probably have a price increase on this monitor, but I expect it to remain under a grand, likely 900 CAD or less before tax.
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Post by duplissi on Aug 15, 2014 10:28:55 GMT -5
There's a user here who swears by IPS monitors. Maybe it was duplissi... I would kill for the Swift... Isn't like $800? Christ... You could buy two high-end cards for that much. This one's for a buddy with a lot of spare change. Yeah, I love IPS panels for gaming. I don't play competitively so having a high refresh rate is less important than having accurate and vibrant colors, and good viewing angles. I hate how TN panels have that gamma shift when you aren't looking at them right on. It gets worse with larger screens too. Personally I'm hoping for a IPS (Or IPS comparable tech) 1440p, 21:9, 120+hz, with DP 1.2a (For Freesync). I will probably have to wait a while for that. Right now I'm waiting on the correct waterblock for my GPU, and later this year/early next I am upgrading to a X99 motherboard and a i7 5820K. Like this one with a higher refresh rate: |
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Post by bladesfist on Aug 15, 2014 11:41:30 GMT -5
There's a user here who swears by IPS monitors. Maybe it was duplissi... I would kill for the Swift... Isn't like $800? Christ... You could buy two high-end cards for that much. This one's for a buddy with a lot of spare change. Yeah, I love IPS panels for gaming. I don't play competitively so having a high refresh rate is less important than having accurate and vibrant colors, and good viewing angles. I hate how TN panels have that gamma shift when you aren't looking at them right on. It gets worse with larger screens too. Personally I'm hoping for a IPS (Or IPS comparable tech) 1440p, 21:9, 120+hz, with DP 1.2a (For Freesync). I will probably have to wait a while for that. Right now I'm waiting on the correct waterblock for my GPU, and later this year/early next I am upgrading to a X99 motherboard and a i7 5820K. Like this one with a higher refresh rate: Funny how everything seems to be the best monitor to him. |
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Post by MidnytRain on Aug 15, 2014 12:03:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I love IPS panels for gaming. I don't play competitively so having a high refresh rate is less important than having accurate and vibrant colors, and good viewing angles. I hate how TN panels have that gamma shift when you aren't looking at them right on. It gets worse with larger screens too. Personally I'm hoping for a IPS (Or IPS comparable tech) 1440p, 21:9, 120+hz, with DP 1.2a (For Freesync). I will probably have to wait a while for that. Right now I'm waiting on the correct waterblock for my GPU, and later this year/early next I am upgrading to a X99 motherboard and a i7 5820K. Like this one with a higher refresh rate: Holy s**t that jank is almost 1300 dollars on Amazon. I guess people are just doing whatever the frak they want now? |
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